Mimicry Diario

Febbraio 2008

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Risorse su Gecko

22 febbraio 2008, 08:07

Ieri sera ho pubblicato la mia traduzione di risorse su Gecko. Bel lavoro, ma faticoso. Segnalato un pò dappertutto.

Aggiornamento di stile

11 febbraio 2008, 19:07

Ho appena finito di aggiornare il foglio di stile di CSS Zibaldone, riportando gli stili ad una maggiore semplicità e coerenza, evitando di escludere Explorer 6. Gli stili eliminati sono:

/* Advanced CSS 2.1 selectors
   Date: December 23, 2007
   Author: Gabriele Romanato */

body>h1 {
	margin: 0;
	padding: 5px 0 10px 5px;
	background: #14568a url("../img/logo.png") 
        no-repeat top right;
	color: #f4fafd;
	font-family: "Arial Black", Arial, sans-serif;
	font-size: 3em;
	text-indent: 0.1em;
}
h1+p {
   background: #000;
	border-top: 3px solid #448abd;
	margin: 0;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: inherit;
}

h1+p>a:link, 
h1+p>a:visited {
	padding: 3px 0.5em;
	color: #fff;
	background: transparent;
	text-decoration: none;
}
h1+p>a:hover {
	background: #14568a;
	color: #fff;
}
h1+p>strong {
	text-transform: uppercase;
	padding: 3px;
	background: #fff;
	border-top: 1px solid #045290;
	border-right: 2px solid #045290;
	color: #000;
}
input[type="text"] {
	background: #fff;
	border: 1px solid;
	color: #000;
}
input[type="submit"] {
	background: #eee;
	color: #000;
	border: 1px solid;
	font-weight: bold;
}
input:focus {
	background: #ffffe6;
	color: #c00;
}

h1+p+p {
	margin: 0;
	border-bottom: 1px dashed;
	padding: 5px 0;

}
h1+p+p>strong:first-child {
	text-transform: uppercase;
}

Ne conservo comunque una copia in locale.

Prime risposte

11 febbraio 2008, 07:22

Prime risposte ai miei test sulle tabelle. Cominciamo dalla prima, di Rijk van Geijtenbeek, di Opera:

So.. what is the correct rendering of http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/tables/table-reflow-000.html?

IE7 does something, that seems to be closest to what the styles ask for at first glance. Firefox 3b and Opera 9.5b don't stretch the image to 100% height, which is prettier, but might be a problem if someone uses sliced images to create borders for example. Safari 3 lets the image grow out of the table-cell, so doesn't seem to use the image dimensions in the table width calculations.

Poi Alex Mogilevsky, Microsoft:

Thanks! We’ll use the tests, more tests = better standards...

On changing rendering in IE updates... Think about it – currently people have to test with IE6, IE7, FF2, FF3, Safari... If on top of that, here is IE6+patch1, IE6+patch2 and so on, would it really be welcomed by web designers? We have considered it but most people we asked are not excited about adding more versions with minor differences...

Having native support for XML sounds like a good idea to me; but I can’t comment at this point on when and how we’ll be adding it to IE.

Infine, un'email giunta stamattina da Alex Robinson:

Hi Gabriele,
To what end are you doing this?

I did this

http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/cssjunk/table-positioning/

following the previous conversation on css-d about absolute positioning within tables. This shows how to overcome the limitations of current browsers.

I hadn't got round to dissecting the specs yet though to figure out what behaviour if any should actually be expected. And then I was going to maybe work on some acid tests of my own. And so with a very very busy period since I knocked it up, I hadn't reported back on it yet.

I'm keen to deal with this since the lack of support for absolute positioning within tables (without tweaks) and Gecko's inability to absolutely position generated content are my two personal bugbears. And relatively long standing.

[link a One True Layout]

So, just wondering if would you be interested in working together on all this.

Non male come inizio.

Traduzioni future

10 febbraio 2008, 08:20

Dal 13 febbraio ho intenzione di cominciare a tradurre il materiale su Gecko raccolto sinora. Quindi sarà la volta delle traduzioni sul DOM.

Pubblicati i test sulle tabelle

10 febbraio 2008, 07:46

Ho appena finito di pubblicare i test sulle tabelle, all'indirizzo http://www.css-zibaldone.com/test/tables.

Test sulle tabelle

08 febbraio 2008, 08:40

Il 2 febbraio scorso ho dato il via ad una serie di test sulle tabelle. I test sono presentati in tre formati: HTML (file con estensione .html), XHTML (file con estensione .xht) ed XML (file con estensione .xml). Sinora ho raccolto circa sessanta test.

Un email da Microsoft

02 febbraio 2008, 08:15

Stamattina ho ricevuto la seguente email da Alex Mogilevsky del team di sviluppo di Internet Explorer.

Thanks for a positive comment - it sounds refreshing after a (surprising) storm of comments when we shared the plan...

I had a chance to talk to a number of designers and developers at Web Directions North this week, and I see that most people do agree with the versioning ideas after they take the effort to follow the thought process that leads to the value of preserving existing content...

Thanks for comment, and thanks for your CSS work - it is very valuable!
Alex

Alex fa riferimento a questo mio messaggio su www-style in risposta a questo post di Ian Hickson.